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And it won’t make sense for us to match it. I’m not up to speed on who’s worth what. That f’ing sucks but again, there is only so much cash to spread around unless you don’t bring back Gronk or AB which would make Tommy mad. Todd Bowles should be the next Tampa Bay Buccaneers Head Coach. The only non 1st Round picks in there are LVD (a very high Rnd 2) … and Shaq. Reality is that he’s not a 19.5 sack DE/OLB EVERY SEASON (maybe 10-12?). Suh doesn’t need the money; he was the highest paid DLineman for several years. Fast Forward Week 14: Bucs vs. Vikings If he doesn’t play here next year, it’ll be because he decided to retire. The Buccaneers won Super Bowl LV, preventing the Chiefs from becoming the NFL's first repeat champion since the 2003-04 Patriots, and now it's Tampa Bay's turn to go for two in … exactly what I said days back. Robby Anderson and Todd Bowles did not always see eye to eye during their time together with the Jets, but that did not stop Anderson from praising his former head coach ahead of Super Bowl LV. So maybe quality of life will edge out the chase for every last dollar. If not Shaq…who do you think they tag then? Coordinator Todd Bowles doesn’t just rely upon Shaq Barrett, Jason Pierre-Paul, and the defensive line. Good thing you have a track record of calling for one thing and the Bucs doing another. Shaq is gone if he is chasing top dollar. Tampa’s defense has played at a championship level … @87 not sure who if any they tag. Otherwise I might be worried. Gulp! We can replace Shaq short-term with a FA and long-term via the draft. Not a player, but the Bucs’ defensive coordinator. And oh ya, he’s a prime candidate for the NFL HOF. heck…maybe the kicker, cause we sure can’t lose him and it would not cost much. Joe thinks it is fair to say one of the following three will not be on the Bucs roster in 2021. Yeah, the guy is a freak. One is, if you let Player-X go, can he be replaced or partially replaced? One element was Suh explaining in the second half the Bucs’ defensive line noticed how the Chiefs and quarterback Pat Mahomes were teetering. I’ve seen EDSMITH play here in Tampa and I’m inclined to take Suh’s side on that stomping incident. Shaq was ineffective without Vea. They did darn well, don’t get me wrong….but I think you change the name on the jersey and you still see similar outcomes. I beleve Suh has made more money in NFL contravts than any other defensive player in history somewhere around 160 million. Breer breaks down how Bowles crafted the plan against the Chiefs that got the Bucs their second Super Bowl in franchise history. (It did, and he was franchised in 2020 as a result of it.). Todd has proven this is a system that adjust to its players, BL has proven he is a cool cat that know his sheet and Brady has proven he is the Unicorn. When Vita was out, we saw a different Bucs Defense. Before some of you push Chris Godwin out the door, remember that several Bucs players will probably restructure their deals, or have another year added on for 2021 cap relief. The 2020 season was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' 45th in the National Football League, their second under head coach Bruce Arians and first with Tom Brady as quarterback. The bigger reality IMO is that Shaq is ONE of SIX super-stars in our Front-7: Vea, Suh, JPP, LVD & White being the others. It's the curse of living in the area and having friends in their front office. They deserve to be Buccaneers in retirement plus if we do what is projected in the draft for us with O-linemen and D-linemen and a LB we would want these guys to mentor the new rookies as they spell these older players in the rotation during games. And also they are the cornerstone of a fierce pass rush. His defensive line has lead the NFL in defense against the run, and won us a super bowl. I do not think JJ Watt is the best idea. Hopefully the Bucs’ hierarchy recognizes the tremendous asset they have in Ndamukong Suh and pay him accordingly. So Suh knows the value of money. Barrett’s second franchise tag would be close to $20 million, from what I’ve seen. All of this is strictly pure speculation. GO BUCS!!!! What did that lead to??? Its likely ME was thinking of guys like CG and LVD. I don’t see CG or SB getting the franchise tag either. Robert: JPP had 9.5 sacks in 2020 (11th highest total in NFL) Shaq had 8 (21st highest). I have difficulty seeing him as the lead dog. GS Key player for the Bucs … Todd Bowles. I don’t know Joe, what kind o money spread do you really expect there is between us and the highest bidder ? Welcome to Jets Wire's European Union Experience. Robert….exactly…you certainly don’t break the bank for Shaq. Shaq was a beast in the SB, but where was he all year? What are you talking about? He’s not going to get a massive deal. There are a lot of guys who want to come here, and the most value for experience will get the job. It might just be time to move AM to LT. Or role the dice and move TW. The more guys we keep the better each one is individually. Again 31.5 sacs, let that sink in. I don’t view him as a ‘mercenary’ at all; he’s an incredibly talented DT who works his tail off & wants to WIN. Jmarkbuc Says: January 15th, 2021 at 6:31 pm. There really isn’t anything new in the piece that hardcore Bucs fans don’t already know, except what jumped out at Joe from the story is the respect and admiration players have for Bowles (and Rodgers). Joe doesn’t think there is one person in the Bucs organization that wants to let any of the players you listed go. “I got to meet him a long, long time ago when he was in Arizona. To me, that is the most sound plan we could have going into 2021. If Suh lives “frugally”?! GO BUCS!!!! The Bucs bringing Suh back and we developing JPP and Shaq eventual replacements. I won’t be surprised to see Barrett get franchised for the second year. Because Suh is no longer ring-chasing, that opens up the field (and potential income). Todd Bowles’ tenure as Jets head coach got off to a roaring start in 2015, but things quickly went south. LOL. I agree I believe Suh has at least a couple of more years left. So hopefully he wants another shot at a Super Bowl. Both of whom are BETTER than GMC and David respectively. If smbdy has to go that would be Godwin. With Stinne and Cappa playing so well. They barely sniffed QB’s this year, although there was pressure, the sacks were not there. Sorry Joe. One thing I know for sure. Someone is going to offer Barrett an absolute ridiculous amount of money. The Bucs will have roughly $30 million in salary-cap space. lol, JPP get’s hurt every year…..especially in the offseason. In Week 6 of the 2020 season, Buccaneers defensive coordinator Todd Bowles put together the best single-game defensive game plan I’d seen this season. He played eight seasons in the NFL as a safety, mainly for the Washington Redskins, and started in Super Bowl XXII against the Denver Broncos.Bowles was the interim … ), their replacements won’t be awful because other veterans will want to come here to play for Bowles. That just blows Joe’s mind. If he retires, Gholston is a solid replacement as long as Vea is in there. Welcome to being a Super Bowl champion and trying to fit guys under a salary cap. Otherwise, both are very much replaceable. I think Suh still has a few years left in him, and really hope we can keep him. Although he had a terrific playoff run (thanks Vita! The extra gravy for 1 or maybe 2 years pales in comparison to the interest and capital gains he is making on his lifelong earnings, and he is completely comfortable with his current crew. Only reason I agree that Godwin is not a priority is because the “Potential” I see in Johnson. The more guys we keep the more the others will want to stay. I think we will see sim pressures from Tampa, working to speed up the process for Brees. With former Jets head coach Todd Bowles coming in as defensive coordinator, the Buccaneers overhauled their passive zone 4-3 defense into an attacking-style 3-4, one-gap scheme with little player turnover. Shaq has 31.5 sacs in the last 2 years 2019-19.5, 2020- 8 and 4 in the Post season. Outside of a two-game suspension for stomping on then-Packers center Evan Dietrich-Smith, Suh has never missed a start in his 11-year NFL career. For Lavonte David, it is likely his last chance at a big payday. With Suh and Vita, the Bucs have been historically good against the run. I know JPP and Shaq do. He’s a happy man here. Sean Murphy-Bunting: Todd Bowles is a football 'mastermind' Tampa Bay Buccaneers CB Sean Murphy-Bunting joins "Good Morning Football" to discuss the Bucs Super Bowl LV win over the Kansas City Chiefs. Suh is already on the wrong side of 30. Pewter Power Says: The defensive line was begging Rodgers to turn them loose. I think Suh can leave a few million on the table next season and still retire comfortably if he lives frugally. When Rodgers finally gave in, it was game over for Rodgers and the Chiefs. I think the Brady effect will take place and players will take a little less…hell Mike evans said he’ll restructure to keep everyone…. And Licht will let him go in that situation. This team will look a lot different next year. It is not just Shaq or White or JPP, it is all of them, with Suh and Vita being the cornerstone for a fierce pass rush, and Suh and Vita also are awesome against the run. I would be surprised if he’s not a Bucs in 2021, and I’d be surprised if Chris Godwin is. Joe would love to bring Suh back but, you know, salary cap. BA and JL can talk all they want, but they are just leveraging. His defensive line has lead the NFL in defense against the run, and won us a super bowl. do they have to tag someone? They look disinterested mostly. I hope he’s back for one last season. Bring back Sue (if he wants to play) Gronk, LVD and CG. We will see if he will take less or not. So would other player like JPP and White. Unfortunately, there is only so much cash to spread around and guys want to get paid. Bucs’ defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers, then Jets’ defensive coordinator, was a factor as well. But at least with Suh in there they still had the best run defense in the NFL. It was a brilliant defensive performance and game plan from coordinator Todd Bowles. Suh rubs elbows with heavy hitters like Warren Buffett. Franchise Shaq, and work out the contracts from there. He shows no signs of slowing down, just like Tom Brady at 43. The more guys we keep the more the others will want to stay. He has had some very serious injuries and operations to his body and I think he is old and busted. ... Will Tampa Bay be able to bring him back? Very analytical Joes … and very wrong. Joe has a hunch — nothing more — the Bucs don’t feel the same way about Godwin. I’m pretty sure he’s gonna make it financially. This front 7 is the foundation of their success and will be for another Super Bowl run in 2021. Then having the opportunities to really speak with him, understanding how he wanted to use me in his defense, it was appealing to me. You know Suh is sharp in Business outside of football also so Hopefully he will work something out to stay for another Super Bowl. He was semi-OK, and just not that good. Coordinator Todd Bowles' game plan looked very similar to what the Tampa 2 Bucs would have deployed against a high-powered offense. And chase a ring. It seems per Albert Breer of SI.com, Bowles (and to a lesser degree, Rodgers) has a strong reputation among NFL players as both a smart man and a guy that players can trust to put in the right position. Don’t expect them to break the bank for anyone. He’s got his ring. Could have been a whole different outcome, and I would not grade them on the SB game. I suspect you are correct. However, I doubt Mike took suggested he would take a pay cut or restructure to bring back AB or Shaq. He may have been a “mercenary” when he signed with the ‘Fins, but now he can see the end of the race priorities may shift. and all this JPP and SB talk. This is why I’d like the Bucs to draft an edge rusher and a DE/DT/NT in the first 2 rounds this year, so JPP and Shaq don’t have to play 90%+ of the snaps, and the DE/DT/NT can back up Suh, and be an insurance policy at NT. The play was a microcosm of defensive coordinator Todd Bowles’s plan for the evening. No state income tax in Florida. If he does return next season, he knows his football shelf life is limited, so he’s going to squeeze every last nickel he can out of his body. Period. Suh is comfortable in this system now. You just do not run on Suh. It just does not make business since. Bucs need Suh to stay and I think he will. After four seasons — three of which resulted in losing records — he was out of a job. Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady celebrates with the Vince Lombardi Trophy after the NFL Super Bowl 55 football game against the Kansas City Chiefs Sunday, Feb. 7, 2021, in Tampa, Fla. What Joe finds interesting is that Suh damn near played for the Jets a few years ago because of current Bucs defensive coordinator Todd Bowles. They’re very close, and I got to sit down with him and understand—then really just watch them from afar, him and Coach Kacy [Rodgers]. He’s a modest man and not a big spender, no doubt a spinoff of Warren Buffet “Millionaire Next Door” influence. You lose Godwin for sure and Gronk comes back as team makes cap room by trading Howard for a third round pick. too much risk IMO. “It was just the way he’s always carried himself,” Suh says. There was a guy named Jim Washburn that I’m super close with and was my coach in Detroit and in Miami. Also, its is not out of the question some fat can be trimmed on the Oline. Shaq is very good IMO, but more-so because he nicely complements what those others bring to the table. At 34 & in great condition, it’s pretty obvious from his past statements that he wants to chase 1 more SB ring, and to do right here with THIS defense. Remember Kwon? Having just a four man rush was a key, maybe the key, to the Bucs putting a stop to Mahomes and the their dangerous offence. Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive coordinator Todd Bowles (pictured) and offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich were brilliant in the Super Bowl, and perhaps torpedoed one of … He will stay with the Bucs on a cap friendly deal. Very little is more disrespectful IMO than not recognizing a person’s value & trying to get their services ‘on the cheap’ because of something like their age. Suh? Without Suh and Vea…White Shaq and JPPs numbers plummet. He’s made 156 million in career earnings ( minus taxes of course ) and is in Warren Buffet’s inner circle. We need to pay guys like Vea and White in the next two years. Joe, David is not going anywhere. To say that he’s benefitting from ‘the company he keeps’ would be an understatement. Shaq, Lavonte and/or Godwin. So yeah, 'eye test' OK. He performed at an incredibly high level this past season, and without him the Bucs wouldn’t have even made the playoffs IMO. Least I remind you we got 8.5 and 9.5 sack seasons out of GMC and we paid him and sacrificed others like Bennett. The club improved on their 7–9 record from the previous season by finishing 11–5 to qualify for the playoffs for the first time since 2007.They advanced through the playoffs to reach and win … Look for Bowles to dial up some blitzes against a rickety Brees and a Saints’ offense with no consistent receiving threats besides Michael Thomas. Ex-Jets QB Tim Tebow announces his retirement from baseball, J.J. Watt uses Robert Saleh's favorite saying in Instagram post, 2021 NFL draft: Jets add to their pass rush in new NFL Network mock, Jets can't afford to lose weapons, but they can afford Jamison Crowder, 6 Jets who could thrive in Mike LaFleur's offense, Report: Patriots to hire former Jets offensive assistant, Neville Hewitt highlights his unique skillset as free agency nears, Ex-Jet Steve McLendon talks winning a Super Bowl with Tom Brady, Todd Bowles, Ex-Jets WR Chris Hogan declares for Premier Lacrosse League draft, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. $2-3 MM ? End of discussion. IOW his productivity didn’t really fall off a huge amount when compared to his first 5 games in 2020 (he was relatively consistent). Seriously, Tampa Bay is a huge underdog going in. He would likely want another super bowl, so it has to be a strong contender, and he knows the pieces around him make him better and he makes them better. This site is neither endorsed, nor sponsored by, nor affiliated with New York Jets or NFL Properties LLC. And he is doing well in business. between that, penalties and playing from so far behind the DE’s could pin their ears back. Of course if we let LVD and/or Shaq go, it’s a completely different story for Suh. But what struck Joe about Breer’s description of Bowles is, whoever leaves from the defense (Lavonte David? In a 38-10 win over the Packers, Bowles combined all kinds of odd fronts, creative blitzes and tying pressure to coverage in ways that forced perhaps the worst game of Aaron Rodgers’ career. If Vita was there for more than the first 5 games he would have more. 46 Responses to “Ndamukong Suh Is A Todd Bowles Guy” [email protected] Roof Cleaning Tampa Says: February 15th, 2021 at 11:34 am. Bucs’ defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers does not get the credit he deserves, IMHO. I've seen both teams live this season, Tampa more than I like. Todd Robert Bowles (born November 18, 1963) is an American football coach who is the defensive coordinator of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the National Football League (NFL), as well as a former player. Suh may be one of the most financially savvy athletes of all times. Suh is 34 and a mercenary. Todd Bowles' defense had a blitz rate of 37.5% in the Week 9 head-to-head matchup with the Saints. maybe VV had something to do with it, but it is what it is from what I saw. Hopefully we can do a long-term deal with Shaq in the vicinity of $15 mil per year (hey, we can all dream, can’t we?). Jets is a registered trademark of the New York Jets LLC. Don’t get me wrong… I hope our D beats the Slimy Saints to a bloody pulp, but I’d be happy if they just acted like they want to play. Brady delivered one his best Super Bowl performances to date, completing 21-of-29 passes for 201 yards and three touchdowns in Tampa Bay’s 31 … That said, Shaq and AB are needing for guys like Brate, Will G and Suh to be cut to secure big paydays. @Jerry: I’m not sure the Bucs wanted Kwon back. Oh and did you see who Shaqs replacement is gonna be??? This past season Vea lasted 5 games (during which Shaq got 3 sacks, 4 QB Hits & 4 TFLs) and in the remaining 11 regular season games (with Suh still in there), Shaq got 5 more sacks, 12 more QB Hits & 7 more TFLs. They smelled blood in the water. Team Work made the dream work. I just see Shaq getting tagged again and Godwin playing for the Lions. At least he wants to return. The main difference is the Rams defense is smart and discipline. That said, it’s not hard to imagine Shaq being a FA bust unless the team has a pro bowl line. And my guess is that, unlike some NFL players, he’s VERY smart about how he invests (and has at least 1 great mentor in Warren Buffet). I hope Tampa realizes the importance of those 2 big men in the middle. The Bucs receiver, who died Monday at age 38, left a lasting … LE: This is a pretty simple one to me.Bowles has to play to the strengths of his corners (big, long, physical), as well as the weaknesses of Drew Brees and the Saints’ passing game, and that means playing plenty of 2-man (man coverage across the board, with two deep safeties giving help over the top) with lots of press coverage at the line of scrimmage. I just think we would do better keeping Shaq than taking a chance on someone who I think is over the hill now. Head coach Bruce Arians told reporters after the game that starting right guard Alex Cappa suffered a fractured ankle, which almost certainly will rule him out for the remainder of Tampa… Suh has finally, after 9 years with the Lions, Dolphins & Rams, found a HOME here with the Bucs. Of course if we let LVD and/or Shaq go, it’s a completely different story for Suh. Tracking NFL mock drafts and draft buzz all the way to the actual draft on April 29-May 1. In the 2019 season he had Vea AND Suh in there for 16 games & Shaq’s sacks were off-the-charts. FAB 3. Suh’s wife is expecting a baby. Pay him the same $8 mil that he played for in 2020, and thank heaven IF he signs that he’s willing to play 1 more year for us. Godwin leaves and the receivers room is still strong. I appreciate Shaq and I think he should cash in on his success. BIG difference between THAT motivation and being a ‘mercenary’. ), he was largely invisible for most of the seasson. He got offered a massive amount and we had to let him go. Franchise Barret at 16 mil, Suh gets 6 mil to come back and then find a way to get David resigned with first year cap hit of 8 mil and that is it for FA signings. Go Bucs! They have to get paid….short of guys like maybe LVD who has been paid and has lost for so long and has long time ties to the area….I could see quite a few walking. Cobraboy … Franchise tagging Shaq for a 2nd year would cost 120% of what he made last year ($15.8 mil) since he was franchise-tagged then. Whatever Jason Bruise and Brady decide, I will support it 100%. Oh did I say Shaq had 31.5 sacs the last 2 years. I’m never in a hurry for the Bucs to lose a good player, and Godwin is very good. Alvin. The Rams defense is whole level above Tampa Bay's. Bowles could help land Watt–in Pittsburgh they’re already worrying TJ could join his brother elsewhere after 2021–TJ would be a nice replacement if JPP retires for 2022. some think these guys play for the fun. I’m saying they couldn’t get pressure/sacks with just the front 4 most of the year. Read more . Shaq is *the* priority on defense, or at least should be (you will read this from Joe very often in the coming weeks). This is all a mental fapping exercise until the new cap number is announced. PewterReport.com will have plenty of updates on Tampa Bay’s salary cap situation, along with free agency previews and mock drafts in 2021 – hopefully beginning in February after a deep Bucs playoff run rather than the start of January at the end of the Bucs’ 2020 regular season. Suh, at this point in his career, is more about cementing his legacy and getting a gold jacket, and there’s no better way to do that than winning a few super bowls. Joe doesn’t think there is a guy out there that can replace Shaq, who is the most important player on the defense (yes, pass rushers are that important). short memories around here. Works out to $19.0 mil. Bucs’ defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers does not get the credit he deserves, IMHO. GO BUCS!!! Cobra – Good analysis. I just think that if we wish to keep everyone we will have to make use of multi year deals to retire these good players. “That’s why, like you said, you take that leap of faith with a strong gentleman like that and we just went from there.”, Shaq Barrett came too, on a one-year deal, with the promise that Bowles’s defense would unlock his considerable potential. One guy Joe fully expects not to be on the roster for the Bucs in 2021 is beastly Ndamukong Suh. From what I saw, JPP gave it his all, although his body is torn up. Thats right 31.5 sacs, the best in the NFL. Bowles turns up the heat by blitzing on 39.0% of pass plays, the fifth-highest rate in the NFL. At defensive tackle. It is all about the front 7 working together, this defense is only going to get better next year. I say 6 mil might do the trick. Robert: You’re right, the pass rush did suffer once Vea was injured. Also, you do know KC had more than 1/2 their line shuffled. By: Sam Neumann. I think if Suh plays, he’ll stay here, life is pretty easy next to Vea & Co. So there are a number of factors at play, some of which we are not privy to. #Bucs DC Todd Bowles interviews this afternoon and has some ... the Eagles will have to jump pretty high to best the salary he’s receiving from the Patriots. 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