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For casual gaming, they're fine. Also look up the Z review of them vs the 660s. What headphones do you currently have and what would you like to improve about them with in terms of the sound quality? The X2s are really comfy, have a solid bass that you can feel and might be a bit more "fun". TL;DR: if you're sensitive to treble peaks (which the DT990 250ohm also have) and like your mids/ vocals up front, don't go for the X2HR. I have both. Build quality wise I think the X2 is tremendous compared to the 58X, but the Senns have way more replacements parts available and can modded super easily since you don't need any tools to assemble them. What other activities will you be doing? You should add more detail on how you want to use them. X2s for me are more about more casual multiplayer or immersive singleplayer games. I want a single pair of headphones, and I'm getting so many conflicting opinions between the two. X58 are on sale right now on massdrop. So depending on what you listen to. A place for discussion, news, reviews and DIY projects related to portable audio, headphones, headphone amplifiers and DACs. The 58X is lighter, but has a much tighter clamp and thinner earpads. And to be clear, I think they are very good headphones, and understand the long standing reputation that the HD650 have, but so far, that is about as enthusiastic as I can get. So conflicted. I don't own the 58X but I do own the X2HR and find their uneven treble response seriously bad. Compare the main Features, Specifications, Prices and Select the Best Model. What is the difference between Audio-Technica ATH-M50x and Philips Fidelio X2HR? I listen to a lot of hip hop on both sets and I honestly think all songs sound great on either pair because they just offer different experiences and to me the 58X does not lack any bass. Comfort I'd say is about the same between the two overall. 51 punti. For single player games, say like Witcher 3, I enjoy the X2 more. 3 editorial reviews. I mostly listen to classic rock however I will often throw on everything from Classical to EDM depending on my mood. Reddit Hd58x Dac. The Fidelio X2 and X2HR do not come with a microphone. The Sennheiser HD58x and Fidelio X2HR, to me, are the perfect mid-fi combo. The soundstage of the Philips is also perceived as being slightly more open and spacious. For more casual gaming and other entertainment the X2s are a solid choice. I’ll get both for now and see which one strikes my fancy more and sell the other. As stated previously it probably depends primarily on use case and genre of music, but the 58X is a superior headphone in every way except for sub bass IMHO. loved them.on battlefield where I don't take it that serious. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Press J to jump to the feed. Find out which is better and their overall performance in the headphones ranking. What’s your price point? The X2 weigh a little more, but it's not bad at all since they're way more plush and they kinda float. I don't see anything else coming along and out-performing these. Here you can ask which headphone is better, which amp you should buy, which gear best fit your budget and anything related to headphone comparisons and purchasing. The X2s are on sale right now on Newegg for $185 and the HD58Xs are $150. I think the 58X sounds great with acoustic music in general (so classical might be best with the Senns), but the X2 is better with more airy songs where a wide soundstage really shows itself. Their sound profile is very well-balanced, making them suitable for a wide range of genres and content, though some people may find they sound a bit piercing or dull on certain tracks. Thanks for the feedback! Philips Fidelio X2 vs Sennheiser HD 599. I genuinely will only be using these for music, gaming (mostly Overwatch) and podcasts/audio books. One is v sharp with the x2. Available colors: Editiorial reviews - / 5. I would say the 58x are better for particular games (competitive/footstep) and do well with most music too. If you can find the X2s for considerably cheaper i’d maybe recommend them over the 58x. That's my gaming setup and it is awesome. The Philips Fidelio X2HR are a great pair of wired open-back headphones for neutral sound listening. They are great headphones and uilt quality is great, all metal and leather materials. HD58X vs HE4XX vs Fidelio X2HR for gaming? It was enough to convince me to buy. Find out which is better and their overall performance in the headphones ranking. I'd make your decision with these factors in mind depending on what matters to you. I’ve narrowed it down to these 3 headphones and can’t decide which one to get. The X2 however do convert seamlessly to a headset using the vmoda boom pro mic. Philips' future in the audio market seems questionable and I don't think it's likely Massdrop will stop the 58X sales. The Philips Fidelio X2HR are slightly better open-back headphones for neutral sound listening than the Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee, though they both perform very similarly. Good bass for … Which of these two headphones would you recommend? They sound different depending on the ohm. The 58X has a narrow-ish soundstage whereas X2's is better, but also have a little bit better overall clarity compared to the X2. But nothing special. X2s. The 58x are clearer and just sound better. Alright that settles it then. This subreddit is dedicated to a community of enthusiast and newcomers. AKG K812. For the 58x you'll need either a modmic or a desktop mic. You could flip a coin and not be disappointed with the outcome honestly. Which one would you recommend as the best all around headphones? I don’t use it but I tried it out and it makes them a bit more fun in the bass area if you’re looking for that. I have the x2 and have never found a fault with it. I also have the 6xx and don’t really like it. I'd say their biggest selling points would be build quality - which is stellar - fun, punchy bass and comfort, despite the weight. Or the more flat and great mid be better. Find out which is better and their overall performance in the headphones ranking. We are all about making the right decision when purchasing new headphones. Hd58x dot have much down low. The mids on the Fidelio are also slightly recessed, creating somewhat of a hollow feel in most vocals imo. Especially if you are going to game with them etc i would pick those. A little summary: probably the most comfortable for longer listening sessions, smooth, inoffensive sound signature, different from the DT 990 you tried (but some people also find it boring by the same token), Narrower soundstage makes them not a great competitive FPS gaming headphone, but otherwise fine for any entertainment, Fun with a capital F -- warm and lively sounding with lots of bass, This sound signature makes it a very cinematic headphone -- great for movies and games, More premium look and feel than the 58X, including being a lot physically heavier (still quite decent comfort though), Wider soundstage makes it a better option for competitive FPS gaming specifically. What is the difference between Philips Fidelio X2 and Philips Fidelio X2HR? X2s won't need an additional amp so if the prices were similar i would go for those. I have no budget. Home > Confronti di cuffie > AKG K812 vs Philips Fidelio X2. Literally the same headphones at $300 off. However, they say that the X2hr is very V-shaped, has too much bass, which bleeds in the mid blurring the vocals, and lacks of imaging even having a good soundstage. In terms of comfort, these headphones are relatively light (0.84 pounds) as they spread their weight evenly across the device. What is the difference between Philips Fidelio X3 and Philips Fidelio X2HR? X2 … X2 is just an easily replaceable 3.5mm connector. 4.5 / 5. Two other options are the Fidelio X2hr and the Hifiman HE4xx. A ’hands on review’ is our first impression of a product only - it is not a full test and verdict. Comfort. They quickly become sibilant and tiresome for my ears, particularly on bad recordings and female dialogue in movies or games. HD58x are probably the better of the two, but the X2s are incredibly fun and definitely worth it too. I have both. The wide soundstage and bass make them really immersive for games where you don't necessarily need to pinpoint where a sound is coming from. I do think either would be good but I lean toward the 58x. 52 punti. HD58X: warm, neutral-ish, detailed with narrow soundstage but amazing imaging. Which dt990. They are different enough to warrant owning both, but if I had to choose one it would be the 58x. HD6XX compared to Fidelio X2 I've been using the HD6XX almost exclusively now for a week, trying to get a feel for their sound and their strengths. The Fidelio L2 is brighter sounding in the mids and treble section while the bass isn’t as tight as on the HD599. 99. I use the 58x for gaming. Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro Professional Studio Headphones. So my question is, if you could only have one pair between these two which would it be for the purposes of gaming (casual & competitive), comfort, pop/hiphop/classical/edm which would it be and why? Hard to say, they are both great and are comfortable to wear for multiple hours. We look at headphones on a fairly regular basis and have done for longer than I have been reviewing things for AVForums. Whichever you choose though you won’t be disappointed. The soundstage is impressive on the X2s and are great for movies, lots of music, and most games that aren't as competitive or footsteps aren't as important. They basically say that HD58X feels more realistic and the X2 feels cartoonish compared. The Philips are more comfortable and have a marginally better-balanced sound profile, especially in the treble range. They are both great at what they do. I have the cheap Syba Sonic 24 bit 96 kHz dac/amp and will be using them mostly for gaming. I run a DAC-X6 and around 9 o'clock gets these both more than loud enough for me. If you like hip hop and edm the X2s will have more of the bass you want. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the HeadphoneAdvice community. There are several brands that hold a good reputation in the headphones market, and two brands that have earned the name for themselves within this market are Philips and Audio Technica. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, HD58x, AirPods, 1MORE Triple Driver, CB-1s. The hd has great mid rage and detail. In product terms, this is not unusual. Pair it with a gsx1000 for simulated surround. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Now I have some others to play with like a HE400i, ... glad I didn't say to you that HD600 was a good option as it was kind of obvious based on what you felt when comparing HD58X with X2. The 58X has almost no sound stage, isn't as comfortable, and has the damn wires coming from both cups that I dislike. The X2 has a much wider soundstage, but the 58x has much better imaging and slightly better sound quality (though that comes down to preference, the X2 are still great). They're a perfect compliment to each other, and together can cover a wide range of use cases. When one thinks of headphones one of the last things one thinks of is Philips but this is not deserved. One benefit of the fidelios are the standard 3.5 cable so you can use a boom pro mic. I prefer a more v shaped sound, and i tend to find the Senn sound a little too laid back. The X2 has a much wider soundstage, but the 58x has much better imaging and slightly better sound quality (though that comes down to preference, the X2 are still great). Philips Fidelio X2 Shop now at Amazon. The 58X don't really require an amp either in my experience. Tough choice all down to personal preference. The Philips Fidelio X2HR/00 is an open headphone launched in 2017 and successor of the X2 (2015) which in turn was the replacement of the Fidelio X1 (2013). For a open back the x2 has some low end. I read a lot on the HD58X forum and people owning both tend to like the HD58X better. I think it comes down to this: The HD58X is in general better for music if you want someting more natural the X2 will color the music and maybe make it more fun but depending of what you listen it's not desireable, the X2 should be really fun for movies and games. Both cans are easy to drive from nominal sources with their sensitivities. For me, HD600 is the reference. Yep. What do you recommend? Sennheiser HD 599 Shop now at Amazon. This headphone feels and looks luxurious and well made. The Philips Fidelio X3 is an open back, over ear headphone that replaces the Fidelio X2. A while back, I posted a Sennheiser HD 559 review. I've started in this hobby with a Fidelio X2 because it was my first opened back HP. Philips Fidelio X2 $ 1,099. I believe they are at 32ohms vs the 58xx are at 150ohm. I know Something like the Hd 800 or BT 1990 might be better but for casual seem a bit expensive. So after pouring over a ton of headphones I've settled upon these two. The v sharper and little better bass might be s better option. Really glad it happened. I wouldn't quite say boring but missing some spice imo. The Dt990 had a really high treble which gave me a listening fatigue after a short period of time. They sound really clear/clean without sounding empty if that makes any sense. HD58X should be more natural and realistic, HD58X has much more presence in mids, voices and instruments like acoustic guitars will be more noticiable and feel closer. I think they sound great for music and gaming. The Fidelio X3 will certainly be of interest when they go on sale later in May/June of this year. Personally I'd own both but the prices for the X2 are going up and it's not worth for me. 00 $ 144. Be sure to visit Dekoni Audio if you are looking for high quality replacement ear pads Philips Fidelio X2. Sennheiser HD 58x vs Philips Fidelio X2HR. What is the difference between Sony WH-1000XM3 and Philips Fidelio X2HR? https://homestudiobasics.com/philips-fidelio-x2-vs-hd650-all-contrast At the moment I have orders out for both of them to try them out but I'm hesitant to go through with the massdrop since they don't accept returns and I'd have to sell them separately if it turns out I like the X2s more. Better comfort, better sound stage, fun v-shape sound. The X2 wins on clarity and cleanness but they share the same warmth/darkness. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. X2hr are a lower impedance and so theyre easier to drive. Its big brother the Fidelio X2 is a lot closer to the HD599 but it is more expensive. Voices also are more forward and a bit more aggressive sounding. 58X is not a good choice for gaming FYI if by gaming you mean competitive FPS. I think musically it's just a matter of what you want. Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 Ohm (Coming soon!) Philips Fidelio X2HR. I tried a friends Beyerdynamics DT 990s however I was disappointed when listening to music (great for gaming). I'm pretty confident you'll enjoy either one you get, if you play lots of competitive games, I'd lean towards the 58x. Soundstage on X2 is big but sometimes so big that people claim it's artificial and lacking imaging but it should be fun in games and movies, the HD58X is very intimate feels like you are the microphone, sometimes the soundstage is lacking for some styles tho. I had the x2hrs and sent them back mainly due to their performance in fps gaming. I prefer the cable on the X2 since it's just on one side and can work with a vmoda boompro if it really needs to, but again since the 58X has the same parts as the 600/650/6XX/660s, cables are super easy to find. Also it is a super open ended question. In passato ho avuto le Sennheiser hd600 (grande fan) e Sennheiser hd650 (meno fan) quindi sarà interessante capire come si inseriscono queste 58x ultime arrivate nella famiglia. tldr; I think they're both great headphones and neither really replaces the other. They also come with a self-adjusting headband and replaceable ear pads covered with velour and plenty of soft memory foam material for maximum comfort. I scooped a FiiO E10K to drive them since the sound card on my PC is trash and it has a nice little bass boost option. The best [http://amzn.to/1QdGrNV] maybe the best we will see all year. 3. The 58x are the better overall headphone IMO, and they're better for competitive gaming. My advice would be to buy the X2 now and if you find yourself wanting the Senns later, just get them then. X2 has the fun V-shape sound. (Demoed) HiFiMan HE4XX vs. " Around this price range it's important to figure out what's important to you (the general you) when looking to buy headphones, because compromises are going to be made. 58X are great for competitive games where it's less about being immersed and just hearing all the detail and being able to pinpoint it accurately. Comparison of Philips Fidelio X2HR vs Philips X2 Over-ear Headphones. Philips Fidelio X2 Streamer or Gamers Weight 380 g Lowest Frequency 5 Hz Highest Frequency 40,000 Hz Driver Unit Size 50 mm Warranty Period 2 Years Sound … What kind of music do you like? The soundstage may be wide but the imaging/positional audio is just bad. Fórum. The fidelios have a wider soundstage and more bass. Salve a tutti, Ho ricevuto le Sennheiser 58x e volevo condividere delle primissime impressioni con Voi. The Philips Fidelio X3 was released in September 2020 and is the sequel to the four-year-old Fidelio X2. I have both. Impedance isn't the full picture. HD58X should be more natural and realistic, HD58X has much more presence in mids, voices and instruments like acoustic guitars will be more noticiable and feel closer. And today we have two headphones from these two brands to compare which one is better, here we have the Audio Technica ATH-M50x and […] Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, 305p mk2, X2, 58X, ath-m40x, SHP9500, SE215, Airpods, LG V20 > HD58X|Starfield|SHP9500|Porta Pro|Tin Audio T2. What disappointed you about the dt990 in terms of their sound? I will mostly use these for music and gaming. But I know x2hr are a great pair too. They are pretty different headphones and I would recommend both depending on what you like. Neither, personally. Find out which is better and their overall performance in the headphones ranking. Outside of all of that they're both pretty easy to drive. 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